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  • How will Coachella radius clause affect JF bookings?

    Curious if anyone has heard anything about this...officially or un...or has insight into how these things work. Although it appears that there may be a carve-out for artists to announce their JF shows, there doesn't appear to be any such carve-out allowing artists to actually book the gig and play at JF... and Fest falls squarely within the (absurdly restrictive) barred dates of 12/31 - 5/1 and the (equally restrictive) N. America radius.

    Some background:
    Billboard: Coachella's Radius Clause Details Exposed in Legal Fight With Oregon Festival:
    NPR: Coachella's Strict Radius Clause 'Sucks The Oxygen' Out Of The Festival World, Lawsuit Argues:
    Last edited by swag; 07-09-2018, 08:08 AM. Reason: fix broken links

  • #2
    Originally posted by MoonpieLover View Post
    Curious if anyone has heard anything about this...officially or un...or has insight into how these things work. Although it appears that there may be a carve-out for artists to announce their JF shows, there doesn't appear to be any such carve-out allowing artists to actually book the gig and play at JF... and Fest falls squarely within the (absurdly restrictive) barred dates of 12/31 - 5/1 and the (equally restrictive) N. America radius.

    Some background:
    Billboard: Coachella's Radius Clause Details Exposed in Legal Fight With Oregon Festival:
    NPR: Coachella's Strict Radius Clause 'Sucks The Oxygen' Out Of The Festival World, Lawsuit Argues:
    I couldn't get either of your links to work, but I was intrigued enough to google the story.
    I assume you are referring to the paragraph in the following article which specifically mentions that Jazzfest has an exemption from the clause restricting publicity for festival appearances in the relevant time-frame.
    http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...regon-festival
    I don't understand however, how you conclude that such an exemption would allow someone to publicize a show, but not to play it. That would be patently absurd.
    I would suggest that you don't read too closely, an article written by someone who could publish the following sentence.
    "- Artist playing Coachella are barred from performing any festival in North American from December 15 to May 1."

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    • #3
      Actual limitations here: http://ampthemag.com/wp-content/uplo...ius-Clause.pdf

      There's nothing on the announcement side that affects Jazzfest, the only clause there that applies outside the west has an exemption for Jazzfest.

      The performance clause applies to all North American festivals including Jazzfest, but the May 1 cutoff date means that a 2nd weekend Jazzfest set would be allowed. And since it's limited to festivals, it also means that around-town gigs at places like the Saenger are allowed also.

      But yeah, it'll be interesting to see what happens as the lawsuit winds through the courts.

      Visit my Jazzfest advice site: http://jazzfest.swagland.com/

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      • #4
        It would be kind of awesome to see artists snub Coachella and play all of the other Fests instead.

        Vegas has been one of the few places bands might be able to pick up a gig between weekends. Got to be tough for the smaller guys to have to play two weekend in a row with nothing in between.

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        • #5
          Mind boggling ....

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          General admission three-day Coachella 2019 passes are priced at $429 per person, with a two-ticket per customer limit, and can be obtained on a layaway plan that allows you to pay incrementally.

          Festival pass and shuttle combo packages will cost $504 per person.

          VIP passes are priced at $999 each, while preferred parking passes cost $150 per weekend.

          Car camping is $125 per space, as is tent camping. New this year is a preferred car camping option, priced at $325.

          Those who wish to splurge can opt for a two-person Lake Eldorado Tee-pee package, priced at $2,458, which includes two general admission tickets, parking and a tee-pee-styled tent. A four-person Lake Eldorado Tee-pee package costs $3,316, while a two-person Lake Eldorado Teepee package with two VIP passes is priced at $3,600 and a four-person Lake Eldorado Teepee package with four VIP passes will cost $5,600.

          Those who really wish to splurge can opt for the two-person Safari Tent package for $9,500. It includes VIP passes, fully furnished, air-conditioned “glamping-style accommodations,” golf cart transportation to the venue, a private adjacent parking, an air- conditioned lounge, on-site spa and concierge services, private restrooms and showers, complimentary Wi-Fi and “so much more.”

          The Safari Tent packages are only available through valleymusictravel.

          And for those who really, really want to splurge, the Coachella Platinum Estates option provides 10 people up to five nights in “a private, luxury estate” — adjacent to the festival grounds — with “up to 6 comfortable bedrooms, a private pool and Jacuzzi, fire pit, complimentary Wi-Fi and bicycles.” Also included is a kitchen “fully stocked with appliances, cookware, and food and beverages of your choosing, plus a cleaning service.”

          Assuming there hasn’t been a price increase since this year’s festival, the cost for the Coachella Platinum Estates package, including VIP passes, is $110,000.

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          • #6
            People, people calm down. Coachella doesn’t book Panic or Buffett or Aerosmith. And I certainly can’t book Kendrick Lamar.

            Just keep buying those sweet shirts we sell for $50 and it’ll all be okay.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by festivalgirl View Post
              It would be kind of awesome to see artists snub Coachella and play all of the other Fests instead.

              Vegas has been one of the few places bands might be able to pick up a gig between weekends. Got to be tough for the smaller guys to have to play two weekend in a row with nothing in between.
              Totally agree. They should all tell Coachella to shove it....

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              • #8
                Originally posted by MoonpieLover View Post
                Curious if anyone has heard anything about this...officially or un...or has insight into how these things work. Although it appears that there may be a carve-out for artists to announce their JF shows, there doesn't appear to be any such carve-out allowing artists to actually book the gig and play at JF... and Fest falls squarely within the (absurdly restrictive) barred dates of 12/31 - 5/1 and the (equally restrictive) N. America radius.

                Some background:
                Billboard: Coachella's Radius Clause Details Exposed in Legal Fight With Oregon Festival:
                NPR: Coachella's Strict Radius Clause 'Sucks The Oxygen' Out Of The Festival World, Lawsuit Argues:
                Quint has spoken.

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                • #9
                  At these prices, it's easy to see who the target audience is at Coachella. It's the up-and-coming see and be seen crowd, not the music heads and festival denizens we know and love.
                  Everything you need to know about the 2018 Coachella Music Festival—from what to wear to who to see.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by cp_deb View Post
                    At these prices, it's easy to see who the target audience is at Coachella. It's the up-and-coming see and be seen crowd, not the music heads and festival denizens we know and love.
                    Seems like it to me....screw 'em

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                    • #11
                      Hopefully will lead to a mass migration of Victoria Secret models to JF.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by festivalgirl View Post
                        Mind boggling ....

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                        General admission three-day Coachella 2019 passes are priced at $429 per person, with a two-ticket per customer limit, and can be obtained on a layaway plan that allows you to pay incrementally.

                        Festival pass and shuttle combo packages will cost $504 per person.

                        VIP passes are priced at $999 each, while preferred parking passes cost $150 per weekend.
                        Compare to Jazzfest.

                        JF 3x single-day tickets would cost $210+ fees, so that's half as much as Coachella.

                        But...

                        JF shuttle is $20 roundtrip, so $60 for the 3 day weekend. Coachella's shuttle add on is $75, so only $5/day more. The JF shuttle trip is less than 4 miles, while the Coachella is 10+ miles.

                        JF 3 day VIP is $1050 (GM) or $1200 (Big Chief), vs $999 for Coachella.

                        Jazzfest VIP parking is $225 for the 3 day weekend, vs $150 for Coachella.
                        Visit my Jazzfest advice site: http://jazzfest.swagland.com/

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by swag View Post

                          Compare to Jazzfest.

                          ...JF shuttle is $20 roundtrip, so $60 for the 3 day weekend. Coachella's shuttle add on is $75, so only $5/day more. The JF shuttle trip is less than 4 miles, while the Coachella is 10+ miles.

                          JF 3 day VIP is $1050 (GM) or $1200 (Big Chief), vs $999 for Coachella.

                          Jazzfest VIP parking is $225 for the 3 day weekend, vs $150 for Coachella.
                          Free ride from Iggy's to the festival. Bus ride for two back to the apartment after festival = $2.50/day. No rental car needing to be parked anywhere.

                          Never seeing fashion advice in Vogue magazine on what to wear or who to see at Jazzfest = priceless.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by kh1958 View Post
                            Hopefully will lead to a mass migration of Victoria Secret models to JF.
                            I don't exactly get the reference...but I echo the sentiment.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by swag View Post

                              Compare to Jazzfest.

                              JF 3x single-day tickets would cost $210+ fees, so that's half as much as Coachella.

                              But...

                              JF shuttle is $20 roundtrip, so $60 for the 3 day weekend. Coachella's shuttle add on is $75, so only $5/day more. The JF shuttle trip is less than 4 miles, while the Coachella is 10+ miles.

                              JF 3 day VIP is $1050 (GM) or $1200 (Big Chief), vs $999 for Coachella.

                              Jazzfest VIP parking is $225 for the 3 day weekend, vs $150 for Coachella.
                              You have to buy a full weekend pass - no daily tickets. There are plenty of other ways to get to JF - over-priced shuttle optional.

                              Those are the price points that are not too bad. It's these packages that are very L.A. - $3600.00 for a teepee. How many people are included in the $110,000 package?

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                              Those who wish to splurge can opt for a two-person Lake Eldorado Tee-pee package, priced at $2,458, which includes two general admission tickets, parking and a tee-pee-styled tent. A four-person Lake Eldorado Tee-pee package costs $3,316, while a two-person Lake Eldorado Teepee package with two VIP passes is priced at $3,600 and a four-person Lake Eldorado Teepee package with four VIP passes will cost $5,600.

                              Those who really wish to splurge can opt for the two-person Safari Tent package for $9,500. It includes VIP passes, fully furnished, air-conditioned “glamping-style accommodations,” golf cart transportation to the venue, a private adjacent parking, an air- conditioned lounge, on-site spa and concierge services, private restrooms and showers, complimentary Wi-Fi and “so much more.”

                              The Safari Tent packages are only available through valleymusictravel.

                              And for those who really, really want to splurge, the Coachella Platinum Estates option provides 10 people up to five nights in “a private, luxury estate” — adjacent to the festival grounds — with “up to 6 comfortable bedrooms, a private pool and Jacuzzi, fire pit, complimentary Wi-Fi and bicycles.” Also included is a kitchen “fully stocked with appliances, cookware, and food and beverages of your choosing, plus a cleaning service.”

                              Assuming there hasn’t been a price increase since this year’s festival, the cost for the Coachella Platinum Estates package, including VIP passes, is $110,000.

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