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  • Originally posted by jjazznj View Post

    I was not there but I have watched it twice on my big screen with the volume cranked up. I already downloaded a video version and an audio version which I have already made cds of. It was a very good recreation of a classic (and alltime favorite of mine) album from 1970. I have seen may sets of music over my lifetime, many with special guests that I would put above it be it Led Zep, The Dead, Allman Brothers, Rolling Stones, Queen, SpringsteeI, Bowie, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Nine Inch Nails, Soundgarden, The Band etc.... i loved it but it was a recreation plus I've seen TTB do some of those songs before, a few many times but not of course with Trey. But hey, it's all subjective!

    The only part I was not crazy about was having Susan, who I am a huge fan of, sing some of the songs, especially Layla. It just did not work for me. Especially when you have Mike and Doyle there who both sing the Bobby Whitlock parts so well and Trey sang the Clapton parts pretty well. The one part we can ALL agree on is no one plays the Duane Allman parts better than Derek!

    I love TTB(I've seen them around a dozen times since their first tour) but I just cannot put them in the same category as the alltime greats as they are not very original and in my opinion do too many covers although I love pretty much every one of them. Derek on the other hand is simply amazing. I really wish he would put out an album of a different style of music, more jazzy and experimental. Bassist Tim Lefebvre, who unfortunately left the band would have been a great person to make such an album with. His bass playing on that last Bowie album was amazing. Derek had stated that TTB really took off when he joined the band.
    My only complaint with TTB is also a lack of solid original songs. I have their last two albums and enjoy most of them, but they don't knock me out. And I will see them live as often as I can.

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    • Originally posted by jjazznj View Post

      I was not there but I have watched it twice on my big screen with the volume cranked up. I already downloaded a video version and an audio version which I have already made cds of. It was a very good recreation of a classic (and alltime favorite of mine) album from 1970. I have seen may sets of music over my lifetime, many with special guests that I would put above it be it Led Zep, The Dead, Allman Brothers, Rolling Stones, Queen, SpringsteeI, Bowie, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Nine Inch Nails, Soundgarden, The Band etc.... i loved it but it was a recreation plus I've seen TTB do some of those songs before, a few many times but not of course with Trey. But hey, it's all subjective!

      The only part I was not crazy about was having Susan, who I am a huge fan of, sing some of the songs, especially Layla. It just did not work for me. Especially when you have Mike and Doyle there who both sing the Bobby Whitlock parts so well and Trey sang the Clapton parts pretty well. The one part we can ALL agree on is no one plays the Duane Allman parts better than Derek!

      I love TTB(I've seen them around a dozen times since their first tour) but I just cannot put them in the same category as the alltime greats as they are not very original and in my opinion do too many covers although I love pretty much every one of them. Derek on the other hand is simply amazing. I really wish he would put out an album of a different style of music, more jazzy and experimental. Bassist Tim Lefebvre, who unfortunately left the band would have been a great person to make such an album with. His bass playing on that last Bowie album was amazing. Derek had stated that TTB really took off when he joined the band.
      Thanks for the more lucid opinion. Will not argue with any of that. That TTB plays a lot of covers bothers me not. They make the songs theirs. I believe them to be the best band around these days. And, just sayin', early on, ABB played a lot of blues covers. Which they also made their own. I do agree that nobody plays Duane better than Duane. What amazes me is to hear both Duane and Dickey in the same solo, the same phrase. Eery. I am also now of the opinion that Derek is at least the equal of Duane, my favorite guitarist of ever, and may have surpassed him. Had Duane not died so young, I'm sure he would have matured as Derek has. I distinctly remember the first time I heard Trucks live, my take was "too many notes." He's grown so. Which is not meant in any way to diminish Duane's importance as a breakthrough artist.

      So, I appreciate your more complete take. I love legit discussions of the art we love, even when opinions and perspectives differ. What I know is I listened to the Layla portion of the TTB set again today on CD, recorded with expertise by a pal, and was able to hear even more than youtube, even though I've got pretty good speakers hooked up to my computer. I remain transfixed. The music simply resonates in a visceral way that I cannot fully explain. At a strange time in my life, it has helped me feel whole. For me, it was more than a recreation.

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      • Originally posted by Kemp View Post

        My only complaint with TTB is also a lack of solid original songs. I have their last two albums and enjoy most of them, but they don't knock me out. And I will see them live as often as I can.
        I compare them to ABB, and, in that regard, TTB does not have songwriters like Greg, or Dickey. But, perspective, of the 7 tunes on Live at Fillmore East, 4 are blues covers. 5 of 8 if you include Mountain Jam, based, as we know, on the Donovan tune.

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        • I have to agree with Kemp and jjazznj as far as TTB lack of quality original material. Sure, the Allman Brothers did a lot of covers, but their first two albums contained some bona fide classic originals( Dreams, Whipping Post, Revival, Midnight Rider, Elizabeth Reed ) and they kept em coming thru the 70's, especially on 'Eat a Peach' and 'Brothers and Sisters'. For TTB to reach the greatness of ABB, they need to step it up with songwriting.

          Of course, the Osmond Brothers did a lot of covers, but Donny made 'Puppy Love' his own.
          Last edited by Marignygregg; 09-01-2019, 09:04 PM.

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          • Originally posted by Kemp View Post

            My only complaint with TTB is also a lack of solid original songs. I have their last two albums and enjoy most of them, but they don't knock me out. And I will see them live as often as I can.
            Yeah their last album "Signs" was very disappointing for me after they talked about how hard they worked on it after the losses of so many close friends and relatives. Some of their songs like "Iím Gonna Be There" border on "easy listening". Not that all songs should be full tilt rockers but some of their mellower tunes just lose me. I did however really enjoy most of the songs on "Made Up Mind " and "Let Me Get By", their two previous albums and at least half of their debut "Revelator". So many of their songs use the same formula; start out with Susan singing a structured tune and later on in the song Derek goes crazy on guitar. I'd like to hear them go in some other directions on their next one or like I said above I'd love to hear Derek put out a solo album and do more of that jazzy, Coltrane style stuff. I do hope that they come back to Jazz Fest next year!

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            • I am relistening to the Lockn Layla for the first time since I watched the webcast recording, this time audio only, from the MP3 I downloaded from archive. I wondered if it would hold up and I have to say it totally does to these ears. If anything it sounds even better than I thought it would. Stunning, actually, because you can almost feel the energy even better without the video. And imo Susanís vocal parts work well because she is singing in key. Treyís and Mikeís parts come off really, really well.

              And the guitars, well, thatís a whole Ďnother thing. Sounds great.

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              • Originally posted by jjazznj View Post

                Yeah their last album "Signs" was very disappointing for me after they talked about how hard they worked on it after the losses of so many close friends and relatives. Some of their songs like "Iím Gonna Be There" border on "easy listening". Not that all songs should be full tilt rockers but some of their mellower tunes just lose me. I did however really enjoy most of the songs on "Made Up Mind " and "Let Me Get By", their two previous albums and at least half of their debut "Revelator". So many of their songs use the same formula; start out with Susan singing a structured tune and later on in the song Derek goes crazy on guitar. I'd like to hear them go in some other directions on their next one or like I said above I'd love to hear Derek put out a solo album and do more of that jazzy, Coltrane style stuff. I do hope that they come back to Jazz Fest next year!
                All totally fair imo. Iíd like the DTB to do a semi-regular thing, kind of how Jerry did the JGB on the side. If Susan wants to do the same, Iíd be happy to hear and see that, too; but I agree that some some more free-form Derek would be a great thing to see.

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                • Originally posted by Lit View Post
                  I am relistening to the Lockn Layla for the first time since I watched the webcast recording, this time audio only, from the MP3 I downloaded from archive. I wondered if it would hold up and I have to say it totally does to these ears. If anything it sounds even better than I thought it would. Stunning, actually, because you can almost feel the energy even better without the video. And imo Susan's vocal parts work well because she is singing in key. Trey's and Mike's parts come off really, really well.

                  And the guitars, well, that's a whole 'nother thing. Sounds great.
                  I agree it holds up. Just drove around and had it on in the car and it sounds amazing. There is so much guitar playing, it is sometimes hard to tell who is playing what at times. But most often, you can tell Derek's piercing tone and Trey's answering him, matching Eric and Duane's efforts. And Susan and Doyle shine on the blues numbers like "Have You Ever Loved A Woman."

                  And I have no problem with the vocals. I like that Susan sings things Clapton or Bobby Whitlock may have, it reminds you this is the TTB doing "Layla."


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                  • Great comments, all. No secret that I love TTB, though I agree they will never be considered "all time great" until they put out more kickin' original tunes. The last release, being an introspective project, was hopefully an aberration. Looking hopefully forward to more great tunes in the vein of 'The Storm', Nobody's Free', or ,Bound For Glory'.

                    The Layla set was so fun to see live! What makes Lockn' special to me. Still haven't decided which set was my all time favorite: Layla or Mad Dogs and Englishmen in '05. Mad Dogs was the last time I would ever see Leon, and that will weigh heavily on my eventual pick. Trey was way better than I expected. Not a huge Phish fan, but I haven't given Trey his due until now. Derek with TAB was great fun as well! I thought he played funky well with Khruang too.

                    Other good Lockn' sets this year: Revivalists, Oteil & Friends, St. Paul, Old Crow, and my favorite JRAD set ever.

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                    • Originally posted by ohio View Post
                      Great comments, all. No secret that I love TTB, though I agree they will never be considered "all time great" until they put out more kickin' original tunes. The last release, being an introspective project, was hopefully an aberration. Looking hopefully forward to more great tunes in the vein of 'The Storm', Nobody's Free', or ,Bound For Glory'.

                      The Layla set was so fun to see live! What makes Lockn' special to me. Still haven't decided which set was my all time favorite: Layla or Mad Dogs and Englishmen in '05. Mad Dogs was the last time I would ever see Leon, and that will weigh heavily on my eventual pick. Trey was way better than I expected. Not a huge Phish fan, but I haven't given Trey his due until now. Derek with TAB was great fun as well! I thought he played funky well with Khruang too.

                      Other good Lockn' sets this year: Revivalists, Oteil & Friends, St. Paul, Old Crow, and my favorite JRAD set ever.
                      I really wish this Lockn' wasn't the same weekend as Fayetteville Roots because I would be there.

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                      • Just when you thought the concept album had gone the way of the dodo...

                        TTB:
                        We are excited to announce our fifth, and most ambitious, studio release to date - I Am The Moon.

                        Totaling 24 tracks and over two hours of new music, I Am The Moon will comprise four individual albums, I. Crescent, II. Ascension, III. The Fall, and IV. Farewell. Each album will have an immersive visual companion, I Am The Moon: The Films. The corresponding films will debut three days prior to each audio release, allowing an opportunity to digest each album in its entirety as a communal listening and viewing experience on the band’s YouTube channel.

                        Pre-order I Am The Moon, Limited Edition Vinyl and Exclusive Merch Now: https://tedeschitrucksband.themerchcollective.com/
                        Release schedule below and for more information, please visit tedeschitrucksband.com/iamthemoon

                        I Am The Moon: I. Crescent
                        Film Premiere: May 31st
                        CD & Digital Release: June 3rd

                        I Am The Moon: II. Ascension
                        Film Premiere: June 28th
                        CD & Digital Release: July 1st

                        I Am The Moon: III. The Fall
                        Film Premiere: July 26th
                        CD & Digital Release: July 29th

                        I Am The Moon: IV. Farewell
                        Film Premiere: August 23rd
                        CD & Digital Release: August 26th

                        All vinyl configurations, including individual LPs and the 4-LP Deluxe Box are available for pre-order now and will ship on September 9th.
                        Visit my Jazzfest advice site: http://jazzfest.swagland.com/

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                        • Well isn't that something? I have to say over and over my admiration and appreciation for Derek. He is so much more than just a guitarist. That by itself would put him at an exceptionally high level within the framework of his business but his skills as a bandleader and his imagination and ability to go places that few others either think of or are willing to attempt is what sets him apart.

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                          • Originally posted by swag View Post
                            Just when you thought the concept album had gone the way of the dodo...

                            TTB:
                            We are excited to announce our fifth, and most ambitious, studio release to date - I Am The Moon.

                            Totaling 24 tracks and over two hours of new music, I Am The Moon will comprise four individual albums, I. Crescent, II. Ascension, III. The Fall, and IV. Farewell. Each album will have an immersive visual companion, I Am The Moon: The Films. The corresponding films will debut three days prior to each audio release, allowing an opportunity to digest each album in its entirety as a communal listening and viewing experience on the band’s YouTube channel.

                            Pre-order I Am The Moon, Limited Edition Vinyl and Exclusive Merch Now: https://tedeschitrucksband.themerchcollective.com/
                            Release schedule below and for more information, please visit tedeschitrucksband.com/iamthemoon

                            I Am The Moon: I. Crescent
                            Film Premiere: May 31st
                            CD & Digital Release: June 3rd

                            I Am The Moon: II. Ascension
                            Film Premiere: June 28th
                            CD & Digital Release: July 1st

                            I Am The Moon: III. The Fall
                            Film Premiere: July 26th
                            CD & Digital Release: July 29th

                            I Am The Moon: IV. Farewell
                            Film Premiere: August 23rd
                            CD & Digital Release: August 26th

                            All vinyl configurations, including individual LPs and the 4-LP Deluxe Box are available for pre-order now and will ship on September 9th.
                            I am getting out my Tales of Toprographic Oceans 4 sided lp to celebrate.
                            Seriously, love this band.

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                            • Originally posted by larrybalmur View Post

                              I am getting out my Tales of Toprographic Oceans 4 sided lp to celebrate.
                              Seriously, love this band.
                              I gotta throw on The Ritual every once in a while.

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                              • Originally posted by swag View Post
                                Just when you thought the concept album had gone the way of the dodo...

                                TTB:
                                We are excited to announce our fifth, and most ambitious, studio release to date - I Am The Moon.

                                Totaling 24 tracks and over two hours of new music, I Am The Moon will comprise four individual albums, I. Crescent, II. Ascension, III. The Fall, and IV. Farewell. Each album will have an immersive visual companion, I Am The Moon: The Films. The corresponding films will debut three days prior to each audio release, allowing an opportunity to digest each album in its entirety as a communal listening and viewing experience on the band’s YouTube channel.

                                Pre-order I Am The Moon, Limited Edition Vinyl and Exclusive Merch Now: https://tedeschitrucksband.themerchcollective.com/
                                Release schedule below and for more information, please visit tedeschitrucksband.com/iamthemoon

                                I Am The Moon: I. Crescent
                                Film Premiere: May 31st
                                CD & Digital Release: June 3rd

                                I Am The Moon: II. Ascension
                                Film Premiere: June 28th
                                CD & Digital Release: July 1st

                                I Am The Moon: III. The Fall
                                Film Premiere: July 26th
                                CD & Digital Release: July 29th

                                I Am The Moon: IV. Farewell
                                Film Premiere: August 23rd
                                CD & Digital Release: August 26th

                                All vinyl configurations, including individual LPs and the 4-LP Deluxe Box are available for pre-order now and will ship on September 9th.
                                Yeah I got bombarded by this today through FB, IG and e-mails. Glad they are doing something different. Wish they were playing The Fest.

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