Early Stones

[Kemp]

My how times have changed. Or have they?

https://youtu.be/MsLOETZBTTE

As I listen to the lyrics I have to wonder. Are we back where we began?

I'll leave the sociological speculation alone, but damn! They sure do sound great. To my ears, that's rock and roll!

[20/20]

My how times have changed. Or have they?

https://youtu.be/MsLOETZBTTE

As I listen to the lyrics I have to wonder. Are we back where we began?

[kyfester]

I wasn't planning on seeing the movie but I'm curious if they went into any detail of Col Parker before Elvis. His alleged scams while running the Tampa Humane Society are interesting.
https://www.tampabay.com/features/hu...uch_170125524/

No, they did not. If you haven't read Alanna's book, and are interested in this stuff, it's well worth it. She dives deep, and has an interesting theory on why he scurried from the Netherlands to the US. For more, here's a gratuitous plug, I'll be on the radio this afternoon (Fri 6/24 at 5:00 EDT), discussing the movie and Elvis with her. Streaming at wfpk.org.

[Headless Hornman]

Very interesting, that question. Baz Luhrman uses Elvis's appearance on the Allen show as a pivot point in his biopic. Allen, my opinion, was always very dismissive and derisive of rock & roll. That appearance came up last night, after I had the pleasure of attending the movie with one of the world's foremost Elvis authorities, and Col Parker's biographer, Alanna Nash, a long time friend here in Louisville. We talked about the scene in the movie...

I wasn't planning on seeing the movie but I'm curious if they went into any detail of Col Parker before Elvis. His alleged scams while running the Tampa Humane Society are interesting.
https://www.tampabay.com/features/hu...uch_170125524/

[Kemp]

Very interesting, that question. Baz Luhrman uses Elvis's appearance on the Allen show as a pivot point in his biopic. Allen, my opinion, was always very dismissive and derisive of rock & roll. That appearance came up last night, after I had the pleasure of attending the movie with one of the world's foremost Elvis authorities, and Col Parker's biographer, Alanna Nash, a long time friend here in Louisville. We talked about the scene in the movie. I did not see Elvis on Allen's show, but have seen the videos. I do recall watching Allen when he and somebody else read the lyrics to "Be Bop A Lula" while making fun of what they considered the stupidity in their minds.

Allen did however seem to be fond of Jerry Lee Lewis, probably because of Lewis’s undeniable piano skills. Carson hated rock and roll and didn’t want it on his show. It took David Letterman to really make rock and roll a mainstay of late night programming. Credit also has to be given to Dick Cavett for having Hendrix and other sixties icons occasionally on his show.

[kyfester]

Yep. When I could. My parents didn't like me staying up late. I think he had a prime time thing on once that included Don Knotts ("Are you nervous?" "NOPE") and Tom Position as a guy who couldn't remember his name. He had Elvis, Jerry Lee, jazz artists and Kerouac on his shows and played with the medium the way his colleague Ernie Kovacs did and Letterman did later. Much more innovative than Carson or Parr.

He also had a variety show like Ed Sullivan's, either before or after his pre-Jack Parr gig. That's what I remember watching. I think.

[kyfester]

Either of you old geezers ever happen to watch the Steve Allen show on TV?

Very interesting, that question. Baz Luhrman uses Elvis's appearance on the Allen show as a pivot point in his biopic. Allen, my opinion, was always very dismissive and derisive of rock & roll. That appearance came up last night, after I had the pleasure of attending the movie with one of the world's foremost Elvis authorities, and Col Parker's biographer, Alanna Nash, a long time friend here in Louisville. We talked about the scene in the movie. I did not see Elvis on Allen's show, but have seen the videos. I do recall watching Allen when he and somebody else read the lyrics to "Be Bop A Lula" while making fun of what they considered the stupidity in their minds.

[Jim]

Yep. When I could. My parents didn't like me staying up late. I think he had a prime time thing on once that included Don Knotts ("Are you nervous?" "NOPE") and Tom Position as a guy who couldn't remember his name. He had Elvis, Jerry Lee, jazz artists and Kerouac on his shows and played with the medium the way his colleague Ernie Kovacs did and Letterman did later. Much more innovative than Carson or Parr.

Frank Zappa was also a guest.

https://youtu.be/HYmf1qLMVxk

[20/20]

Yep. When I could. My parents didn't like me staying up late. I think he had a prime time thing on once that included Don Knotts ("Are you nervous?" "NOPE") and Tom Position as a guy who couldn't remember his name. He had Elvis, Jerry Lee, jazz artists and Kerouac on his shows and played with the medium the way his colleague Ernie Kovacs did and Letterman did later. Much more innovative than Carson or Parr.

Exactly! Good memory. It was a very good show. Innovative and very funny. Great set of actors and comedians. The original show that is. Network moved it to Sundays to combat Ed Sullivan and made it a variety show. Lost it’s panache.

[Kemp]

Either of you old geezers ever happen to watch the Steve Allen show on TV?

Yep. When I could. My parents didn't like me staying up late. I think he had a prime time thing on once that included Don Knotts ("Are you nervous?" "NOPE") and Tom Position as a guy who couldn't remember his name. He had Elvis, Jerry Lee, jazz artists and Kerouac on his shows and played with the medium the way his colleague Ernie Kovacs did and Letterman did later. Much more innovative than Carson or Parr.

[stynger]

So let me address a couple of comments above. There were two shows over two nights. My wife Michelle went to school at Santa Monica High School across the street from the Civic Center. The school had a open campus so she and her friend went across the street to check out what was going on. She met Moulty the drummer of the Barbarians and he gave her the lowdown on the show and gave her tickets. She was at the first show. She couldn’t go to night two because she got grounded. I can assure you The Godfather and The Stones played on the same night. Michelle hated James Brown’s performance mainly because she wanted to see The Stones and it was getting later and later. You can imagine what she thought of his cape routine. Me telling her that might be the most iconic JB performance ever didn’t change her reaction to it.

[20/20]

Either of you old geezers ever happen to watch the Steve Allen show on TV?

[Kemp]

I have or had the VHS. Someone can explain that to the youngsters. I saw it in the theaters as a kid. I liked the Stones but James stole the show with his cape and inability to leave the stage routine. Lesley is sweet, but The Ronnettes with their high hair and sexy little bye bye wave sent my early adolescent imagination into overdrive. They sounded great, too.

[kyfester]

Now I am concerned as to whether either of you two are to be trusted? Just two old Geezers carrying on. I need to get in touch with stynger's wife.

:-) Old geezer? Guilty as charged. But I did see the movie in a theater in '64. And seem to remember watching it online ten, fifteen years ago. I can be trusted. My memory? Not so much.

[20/20]

Now I am concerned as to whether either of you two are to be trusted? Just two old Geezers carrying on. I need to get in touch with stynger's wife.